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Re: Premiére construction de guitare

Posté : sam. 9 juil. 2011 12:14
par clepx
Eh beh, ça faisait un moment que j'étais pas venu et je tombe sur ce post. MAGNIFIQUE!!!
Superbe travail, tout y est, finitions, design, réalisation et outils faits maison. Une vraie mine d'or pour tous.

Encore bravo.

Clément

Re: Premiére construcion de guitarre

Posté : sam. 9 juil. 2011 13:08
par tetiaroa
gfro a écrit :Bonsoir,

superbe réalisation ! Et l'idée de la cale à radius est très bonne à reprendre :app:

Par contre au niveau des cornes, il y a des bois préconisés pour avoir une bonne solidité malgrés ce genre de design très fin ?
Le bois de l'arrière, l'acajou SIPO a une résistance suffisante pour assurer l'intégrité du projet. Et pour éviter la malchance, j'ai mis le "Strap Lock" dans un endroit qui ne change pas la résistance :D

Re: Premiére construction de guitare

Posté : sam. 9 juil. 2011 17:44
par tony14
génial cette cale multi-radius. :app:

Ce thread est une mine d'informations . :beer:

Re: Premiére construction de guitare

Posté : dim. 10 juil. 2011 13:52
par tetiaroa
After fretting the scale came the finishing.
After September 11, several things could not be shipped by plain so it was a big draw back for me because I couldn't find in Portugal, Nitro to finish my guitar
so after reading and browsing a lot the web I've found KTM9 that is a water base varnish that could be shipped by plane.
It as a big advantage, is not toxic and could be applied in doors without special requirements.
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One thing that make me a bit concerned was the softness of the POPLAR wood "popeliér", I needed to hardened it to avoid its integrity.
I've use ZPOXY, a resin with two components, the resin it self ,and a hardener that needed to be mixed 50% by 50%. There are two kinds of ZPOXY, one that hardens in 5 minutes and another that hardens in 30 minutes. We don't need be very accurate as some resins do.

We can applied it with a credit cart over the top if it is flat, but like my case, that is round, I use my fingers with nitro gloves, it gives you more control. There are out there a lot of information regarding the ZPOXY.

Poplar wood have some holes in it, so to leveling it I, using 5 minutes Zpoxy
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Re: Premiére construction de guitare

Posté : lun. 11 juil. 2011 13:43
par tetiaroa
After 4 coats of ZPOXY and 12 coats of KTM9, time to sand and cleaning the cavities of excess varnish
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I've bought a reamer in Madinter that help me a lot cleaning the holes
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Ok, time to do the electronics

The shilding
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...and the "spaghetti" :D
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Because of a calculation error :oops: (I've planed building without having all the components (Bridge))
I had to do some more routing to recess down the bridge. The strings where to high.
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...but everything went OK

And there you have it...
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and BORA-BORA silhouette on the twelve fret to remind me of the beautiful days that I've spent in French Polinesia :D :D :D :D :D
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Re: Premiére construction de guitare

Posté : lun. 11 juil. 2011 16:54
par guyzard
outch ! Quel bordel dans la cavité électronique ! :lol:

Re: Premiére construction de guitare

Posté : lun. 11 juil. 2011 17:18
par fidler
Elle est vraiment superbe cette guitare :yap: :yap:

Un petit sample maintenant ?

Re: Premiére construction de guitare

Posté : lun. 11 juil. 2011 17:46
par GP Black Sheep
quelqu'un m'explique a quoi sert la prise a coté du jack svp

Re: Premiére construction de guitare

Posté : lun. 11 juil. 2011 17:57
par tetiaroa
GP Black Sheep a écrit :quelqu'un m'explique a quoi sert la prise a coté du jack svp
Its a 13 pin output midi jack
The bridge as piezo saddles and a Graph Tech MIDI HEXPANDER
So I can play a guitar synthesizer or another midi device :D :D :D

Re: Premiére construction de guitare

Posté : lun. 11 juil. 2011 18:01
par GP Black Sheep
merci

Re: Premiére construction de guitare

Posté : lun. 18 juil. 2011 15:32
par Enrico
Don't forget to leave a quick summary of your (remarkable) guitar build so I can add it to the index.
Take a look at this forum entry to see how the summary should look like :wink:

N'rico

Re: Premiére construction de guitare

Posté : lun. 18 juil. 2011 16:57
par tetiaroa
It's been a will, that I've intended to build a guitar that fits the sound and my kind of playing, I've read, bought books and browse a lot several Luthier Forums.
There are a lot of people out there with fantastic ideas and wiling to share and to do better and that can compete with main guitar brands.
My interest in sharing my build with you all, was because, what I have learned, should be shared to people that may also have difficulties and could learn something about it. :)

I wanted to use good materials to get a good instrument and this was very risky to me because undertaking such a project without having build a guitar before and not knowing
mush about electronics, doing some thing wrong would cost me a lot of money :(

In the beginning my project was to build a Ibanez Jem copy because of the body design, I even bought some templates, but I've ended build something different.
I've design in Adobe Illustrator the guitar and all the templates needed (this was a good learning experience).

So this is the list of Wood, Hardware, and Electronics:

WOOD

BODY
- Topset- Poplar
- Downset- Mahogany

NECK
- Maple
- Wenge
- Ebony
- Poplar

FINISHING

- ZPOXY resin
- KTM9 water base varnish

INLAY
- Abalone strips
- Mother of Pearl
- MOP dots

HARDWARE

Bridge- ETS (BassParts)
Machine Heads - Sperzel
Brass pickup wrings
Strap butons - Warwick
Nut - Graph Tech
Jumbo frets

Electronics
- 2 -EMG X89 active pickups
- 1 -EMG After Burner
- 1 -Graph Tech Midi Hexpander
- 6 -piezo saddles ETS (BassParts)
- 2 -9 volts battery

-64,5 cm Scale
-24 frets

...and a lot of doubts, work and a lot praying, for not doing a mess :lol:
But in the end every thing went ok

Re: Premiére construction de guitare

Posté : mar. 19 juil. 2011 10:33
par Enrico
Entered in the index :wink:

Re: Premiére construction de guitare

Posté : mar. 19 juil. 2011 11:03
par Melody
It seems like the head is not a the same thickness. Look the B and E tuners, they're not lined up with the other's top :wink:

(Punaise faut que je retourne en cours d'anglais me rattraper moi :siffle: :siffle: )

Re: Premiére construction de guitare

Posté : mar. 19 juil. 2011 11:37
par tetiaroa
Melody a écrit :It seems like the head is not a the same thickness. Look the B and E tuners, they're not lined up with the other's top :wink:

(Punaise faut que je retourne en cours d'anglais me rattraper moi :siffle: :siffle: )
This is the template that I've design in Adobe Illustrator
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The headstock as a curve hedge, and I've projected that curve to align them all :o

Re: Premiére construction de guitare

Posté : mar. 19 juil. 2011 14:55
par Necromagnon
Melody a écrit :It seems like the head is not a the same thickness. Look the B and E tuners, they're not lined up with the other's top :wink:
C'est ce qu'ils appellent les "staggered posts", nos amis angliches.
Les mécas ne font pas la même hauteur: E-A, D-G, et B-E, pour compenser le fait que, comme les cordes s'éloignent du sillet, l'angle après le sillet devrait devenir plus faible. En diminuant la hauteur des mécas, tu compenses. :wink:

Re: Premiére construction de guitare

Posté : mar. 29 nov. 2011 16:44
par tetiaroa
Hi you all
I would like to talk to you about my guitar Headstock,
When I was planning my guitar I saw at "projectguitar.ibforums.com" that amazing headstock from Rad, and I thought I could use it in mine, I don't want to you get the idea that it is my own design and know I want to give him his due credits
I also would like to share with you guys his amazing artistry from whom I've learn a lot. :linux:
I hope you guys learn something from him like I did.
http://guitarlogistics.blogspot.com/

Re: Premiére construction de guitare

Posté : mar. 29 nov. 2011 17:25
par Youne
Waoh, just an amazing guitar
Thank's for the link :beer:

Re: Premiére construction de guitare

Posté : mar. 29 nov. 2011 18:59
par Fonzy
:xfiles: outch :aie:

clap clap clap :mrgreen:

:beer: